Feedback request on algorithm update

[Josh]

Hello @all, as most of you will know, Mojeek is continuously making improvements to our algorithm.

We are now pleased to introduce to you what could be a major update. It’s early days but in a lot of cases it is already better than the current algorithm. From this feedback we’re hoping to find out:

1. If you’d consider the new algorithm to be overall better, worse or the same.
2. Any searches that are particularly better or worse than the current algorithm.

You can check it out and provide a vote via /eval:

https://www.mojeek.com/eval

Or if you prefer, you can append ‘&m=118&ssoe=38404’ to the usual search URL.

As always feedback is appreciated in whatever manner you’re most comfortable with, whether via eval, here, pm (feel free to send it straight to me) or email (aloe [at] mojeek [dot] com.

[mike]

@Josh

&m=118&ssoe=38404

These also appear to work as cookies. This makes it much easier to permanently turn on these flags in Firefox.

[mike]

I noticed that Musk’s Twitter profile was downranked off of the first page of results. I’d consider his Twitter profile to be an important result for that search.

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Default Algorithm

# Query
elon musk

# URL
https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=elon+musk

# Decoded URL
https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=elon+musk

# Result
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Elon_Musk
Elon Musk - Wikipedia

https://www.cnbc.com › elon-musk
Elon Musk - CNBC

https://twitter.com › elonmusk
twitter.com/elonmusk

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New Algorithm

# Query
elon musk

# URL
https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=elon+musk&m=118&ssoe=38404

# Decoded URL
https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=elon+musk&m=118&ssoe=38404

# Result
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Elon_Musk
Elon Musk - Wikipedia

https://www.cnbc.com › elon-musk
Elon Musk - CNBC

https://www.vox.com › ... › ... › elon-musk-image-analysis-acts-of-love-t...
How Elon Musk gets away with it - Vox

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[Josh]

Thanks @Mike, we’re digging into this one

[mike]

Just a heads-up. /eval seems to ignore since:day. I assume that is by design. But, as a consequence, my A and B include results that would not appear in the standard search results.

[Josh]

@mike

I assume that is by design

This is correct, un-operator-ed searches are more useful for the sake of testing changes which we use The Algorithm Evaluation for

[Videonas]

@Josh

You can check it out and provide a vote via /eval:

https://www.mojeek.com/eval

I’m guessing that this page wasn’t designed with mobile in mind. I find it too difficult to work with on my phone.

[Josh]

ah yes, it’s a bigger-screen tool, will take that feedback for if and when another algo gets put up

[overdrive1]

I was testing the new algorithm and the truth is that I found something a little funny in the current algorithm https://www.mojeek.com there are some terms that when I search for them everything is fine, but when I search for them in Algorithm Evaluation I get NSFW content, I could list what I searched for so you can try it if you need.

[Josh]

Hello and welcome @overdrive1, if you want to DM them to me then I can take a look

[Josh]

So far the results would show this as a pretty sizeable success!

We’re not done yet though. As a result we’ve further developed the algorithm being tested, and that iteration is now live on The Algorithm Evaluation Page. So please keep on testing out queries there so we can ensure that the version pushed is the best it can be.

[overdrive1]

Yeah sure, im having trouble finding how to DM you, as i cannot see the “Message” button

[Josh]

The update has flipped things about a bit but if we’re seeing the same thing then one way is to click the chat bubble

The plus sign

and then tap J

I’ve sent you a message also so you should have a notification.

[overdrive1]

I think i dont have permissions of viewing dms

[Josh]

ah yes, I can see from the settings that new users cannot use chat, I’ve upgraded you a level so you should be able to see my message now!

[Josh]

I’ve got your initial hello DMs @overdrive1 but no prompts as of yet

[mike]

I did not find what I was searching for today. So, I clicked on the ‘Compare results to upcoming algorithm’ button.

The since: operator I used in my original search was included in the /eval URL. And, I received no results.

Note that the since: operator was excluded from the input field on the page while being included in the URL.

# Query
# since: excluded
Dave Calhoun full testimony

# URL
# since: included
https://www.mojeek.com/eval?q=Dave+Calhoun+full+testimony+since%3A20240123

# Decoded URL
https://www.mojeek.com/eval?q=Dave+Calhoun+full+testimony+since:20240123

# Result
Blank /eval page. 

[Josh]

@mike, as we’ve pushed this now (ref. The New Algorithm is Live 🎉) we’ve banked this feedback for the next time we do testing on the SERPs, to make sure that those parameters are useable.

[mike]

No problem. But I really just meant to point out that the operator was not properly removed as intended. If it could be made to pass-thru, that would be fine.